Black Lives Matter protests spark calls to defund the police

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The US currently spends more than $123 billion a year on policing, according to the US Census Bureau. Given that it’s estimated that just 4% of calls to police are about violent crime, could the money be better spent elsewhere? New research led by Dr Jennifer Cobbina-Dungy, from Michigan State University in the US, examines the growing call to ‘defund the police’ in the context of the Black Lives Matter movement. She finds that protesters against police violence and racial inequalities support the principle of defunding, but that the terminology might be in need of refinement.
The New York Times reported that the 2020 Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests were attended by up to 26 million people, making it the largest social movement in US history.

The movement began in 2013 as a hashtag on social media, after the acquittal of George Zimmerman for the shooting of Black teenager Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida. Civil unrest led BLM to gather pace following the later deaths of other Black civilians at the hands of police, including Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, and Freddie Gray in Baltimore, Maryland. However, it was the fatal shooting of Breonna Taylor in Louisville, Kentucky and the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis in 2020 by a white police officer, that sparked nationwide protests and gained global support for the BLM movement.


BLM has brought people from all walks of life together to protest against police violence and racial inequalities. Dr Jennifer Cobbina-Dungy, Professor in the School of Criminal Justice at Michigan State University, US, interviewed nearly 200 protesters and residents for her 2019 book Hands Up Don’t Shoot: Why the protests in Ferguson and Baltimore matter and how they changed America. Following the deaths of Breonna Taylor and George Floyd, Cobbina-Dungy has led new research based on interviews with protesters who attended the ‘Get Your Knee Off Our Necks’ Commitment March in Washington, DC in August 2020. Published in the journal Criminology and Public Policy, the study focuses on the calls to ‘defund the police’ that have accompanied the BLM movement. Probing public perception and understanding of the slogan, Cobbina-Dungy and colleagues find that the majority of protesters think of defunding as a two-step process to reduce police department budgets and then reallocate resources towards much-needed services in local communities.

“The majority of protesters think of defunding as a two-step process: to reduce police department budgets and reallocate resources towards much-needed services in local communities.”

Identifying perceptions and themes

Cobbina-Dungy and her colleagues conducted in-depth, qualitative interviews with 28 protesters following the 2020 Commitment March. Aged between 23 and 74, around half of the volunteers who took part identified as Black, and the majority as women. Most had a college degree and reported their politics as liberal or radical liberal.

Interviewees were asked about their experience with, and perceptions of, the police. Questions included whether and how many times they or people they knew had been harassed or mistreated by the police, and whether they thought that the police did a good job in responding to calls for help, enforcing the law, and solving crime. They were asked about police attitudes and their personal reactions to the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, as well as what they understood by the slogan ‘defund the police’. Participants were also asked how America could move forward as a nation.

Protestors at the ‘Get Your Knee Off Our Necks’ Commitment March in Washington DC, US, 2020.Photo Credit: Parker Miller from Washington, DC, United States, CC BY-SA 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons

Interviewees’ responses were analysed and coded to identify emerging themes and whether the themes were shared with others. Protesters were categorised according to their level of commitment to BLM: ‘revolutionary’ protesters who protested almost daily and may have experienced aggressive police tactics; ‘intermittent’ protesters who protested at least three or more times but were committed to the cause; ‘tourist’ protesters who protested fewer than three times but were curious about BLM; and ‘new’ protesters who were moved to protest by the deaths of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor. While 40% of interviewees were more experienced ‘revolutionary’ or ‘intermittent’ protesters, the majority were categorised as ‘new’ or ‘tourist’ protesters.

Police harassment

The results show that two-thirds of interviewees believed that police often harass or mistreat people and almost all said they had witnessed such treatment. Regarding their personal experience, 50% of white participants, 55% of Black participants, and 75% of participants identifying as two or more races reported having been personally harassed or mistreated by police. Despite this, most said that police do a good job in responding to calls for help, enforcing the law, and working hard to solve crimes, but that they were neither easy to talk to, nor respectful of people.

Around a fifth of protesters across all protester types regarded the ‘defund the police’ slogan as problematic. Some felt that ‘defund’ is confusing and open to deliberate misinterpretation by opponents. Others, especially ‘new’ and ‘tourist’ protester types, felt that the term could put people off and suggest doing away with the police altogether, which they feared could lead to anarchy.

An image from the Black Lives Matter protest in Ferguson, Missouri. A dark scene with four police officers in the front facing away from the camera. In the background there are people standing around, and there is smoke in the air.
Protests in Ferguson, Missouri, US, 2014. Photo Credit: Loavesofbread, CC BY-SA 4.0, via Wikimedia Commons

A few ‘revolutionary’ and ‘intermittent’ interviewees did want to abolish the police, and as one said, ‘reimagine a different way of operating’ in society. A few other protesters supported defunding because they wanted to see the ‘demilitarisation’ of law enforcement. One explained: ‘There’s no reason police should be able to deck themselves out in military grade equipment for peaceful protesters.’

Most interviewees argued that the police are needed to keep law and order, but that they are expected to do too much and to deal with societal problems as well as crime. While a few called for reallocation of funding within police budgets to improve officer training in community issues, two-thirds of participants thought that crime could be prevented or reduced if some police resources were reallocated to community services that meet people’s immediate needs. Examples given included youth clubs, mental health services, schooling, anti-poverty initiatives, and affordable housing. One protester said that this would ‘take some of the pressure off the police so they aren’t the ones that always have to do the heavy lifting’.

Defund the police

Cobbina-Dungy and her colleagues’ research is one of the first studies to look specifically at how ‘defund the police’ is understood by protesters with differing levels of commitment to the BLM movement. It confirms that protester type shapes people’s responses and provides a more nuanced view than the opinion polls that are often used to gauge public perceptions of controversial subjects.

This research is the first to assess how ‘defund the police’ is understood by a range of different protestors. Hyejin Kang/

Some protesters interviewed for the study had reservations about the terminology of ‘defund the police’, but most thought of defunding as a two-step process that starts with the reduction of police budgets and is followed by reallocation of the resources saved to social services in the same communities that the police departments serve.

“‘Defund the police’ is a complicated term which is open to manipulation by the mass media according to political or other agendas.”

Although the interviewees came from different racial backgrounds, racial identity did not appear to shape people’s opinions on defunding. Reallocation was not only supported because interviewees thought money would be better spent in preventative work: interviewees said it was also because police were not always the best people to deal with non-violent situations (cases which, as Cobbina-Dungy quotes, account for 94% of calls to the police), and may even cause problems and escalate situations. In addition, interviewees reported that high levels of expenditures on police in under-resourced communities fails to make communities safer and disproportionately penalises Black people and people from other ethnic backgrounds.

The way forward

Cobbina-Dungy and her collaborators’ research shows significant support across a range of protester types for the call to ‘defund the police’ that has become associated with the BLM movement. She comments: ‘The overrepresentation of Black people as victims of police violence is tied to overreliance on police to address structural problems. Defunding the police offers a solution to addressing the root causes of crime by ameliorating the conditions that give rise to high levels of crime and making investments that increase economic mobility.’

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However, Dr Cobbina-Dungy and colleagues find that ‘defund the police’ is a complicated term which is open to manipulation, for example by the mass media, according to political and other agendas. She urges social movements like BLM to promote their goals and slogans more effectively. In particular, she recommends that they partner with communication, brand, and public relations agencies to create messages that are clearly understood by the different audiences at which they are aimed.

What are your upcoming research projects?
I will be working on a research project to understand how youth decisions about violence are shaped by the neighbourhood and related contexts, such as peers and school. Specifically, my colleagues and I will explore how youth think about engaging in, avoiding, or responding to violence in high-crime, under-served neighbourhoods. We also want to understand neighbourhood factors that shape how youth make decisions about violence, and the resources that are available and the challenges that neighbourhoods experience in helping youth navigate these issues.Another upcoming project includes an examination of how gender intersects with race and neighbourhood context in determining whether and why Black people are suspicious of the police. Here, I will build from the insights of previous research by providing a contextual examination of the gendered nature of suspicion of the police among Black protesters and residents of Ferguson, and Baltimore, Maryland.



  • Cobbina-Dungy, J, Chaudhuri, S, LaCourse, A, DeJong, C, (2022) ‘Defund the police’: Perceptions among protesters in the 2020 March on Washington. Criminology and Public Policy, 1–28.
  • Cobbina-Dungy, J, (2019) Hands Up Don’t Shoot: why the protests in Ferguson and Baltimore matter and how they changed America. NYU Press.

Research Objectives

Dr Jennifer Cobbina-Dungy examines calls to defund the police in the context of the Black Lives Matter movement.


  • Soma Chaudhuri
  • Ashleigh LaCourse
  • Christina DeJong


Dr Jennifer Cobbina-Dungy
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